Welcome to Investor Talk โ where we interview successful investors to uncover their journeys, strategies, and the lessons they've learned. Get inspired by real stories and gain valuable insights to sharpen your own investment approach.
Every interview follows the same set of sharp, insightful questions โ such as โWhat is your investment strategy?โ, โWhat are your highest conviction stocks?โ, and โWhatโs the biggest investment mistake youโve made?โ
In this edition, we have the pleasure of interviewing:
Name: Chin Hui Leong @chin_investor
Age: 48
Residence/Country: Singapore
Invests since: 2005
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I grew up in Penang, Malaysia and studied in Singapore in my late teens. My first job started with project management and turned into procurement. It was an unexpected twist which turned out to be a decade of work, where I travelled around Asia, Europe, and the US visiting businesses of all shapes and sizes. Thatโs where the kindle of interest in studying businesses was lit. I was fascinated by how people, culture, business strategy, and industries intersect and the cornucopia of outcomes created.
In a nutshell, investing was a hobby which gradually into what I wanted to do every day. The Great Financial Crisis, which happened two years after I started investing, was a gut-wrenching experience when it was happening but turned out to be the most eye-opening moment. In my mind, the event was the greatest ever stress test for businesses, and from it, you get the clearest view of what businesses can survive and thrive when things get better.
In 2020, just before the pandemic, I co-founded The Smart investor together with David Kuo and Joanna Sng.
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My investing style is inspired by Motley Fool co-founder, David Gardner @DavidGFool, and forged by Tom Engle, a popular member of the old Motley Fool boards.
When it comes to picking stocks, I like to start with a blank sheet. Like Lego, I like to build up an initial thesis for the business.
Source for my Lego blocks:
1. Investing concepts: the innovatorโs dilemma, the long tail, the outsiders.
2. Previous job experience: industries, business travel, supply chain management.
3. Emerging trends: software eats the world.
4. Smart backing: opinions of investors with great track records.
5. Desirable characteristics: growing revenue, history of free cash flow and growth without the use of debt, strong balance sheet, etc.
In essence, I want to learn why a successful business has done well over time, and whether it can continue to do so.
From there, I will follow the business developments and management team over time to validate or add to my initial thesis. The business drive the stockโs valuation, rather than have the valuation make up for a less stellar business.
๐๐ผ๐ ๐บ๐ฎ๐ป๐ ๐๐๐ผ๐ฐ๐ธ๐ ๐ฎ๐ฟ๐ฒ ๐ฐ๐๐ฟ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐ป๐๐น๐ ๐ต๐ฒ๐น๐ฑ ๐ถ๐ป ๐๐ผ๐๐ฟ ๐ฝ๐ผ๐ฟ๐๐ณ๐ผ๐น๐ถ๐ผ? More than 60 stocks. But the top 10 takes up roughly half my portfolio.
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I donโt invest based on sectors. But software companies have become into a big part of my portfolio.
๐ช๐ต๐ถ๐ฐ๐ต ๐๐๐ผ๐ฐ๐ธ ๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ต๐ถ๐ด๐ต๐ฒ๐๐ ๐ฟ๐ฒ๐๐๐ฟ๐ป? $NFLX Netflix is up around 186x since my purchase back in January 2007.
๐ช๐ต๐ฎ๐ ๐ถ๐ ๐๐ต๐ฒ ๐ฏ๐ถ๐ด๐ด๐ฒ๐๐ ๐ถ๐ป๐๐ฒ๐๐๐บ๐ฒ๐ป๐ ๐บ๐ถ๐๐๐ฎ๐ธ๐ฒ ๐๐ผ๐ ๐ต๐ฎ๐๐ฒ ๐บ๐ฎ๐ฑ๐ฒ?
My worst mistake was also Netflix $NFLX. I sold half of my position sometime in 2011.
My brain convinced me to sell half of the stock after it went up by 100% or so. I did a detailed valuation on excel to convince myself that I had done my "homework" and my action will be correct. In reality, I was just scared of losing my gains. Lesson learnt.
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Favorite books: Shoe Dog, Robert Kuok: A Memoir, Subscribed, Your Money and Your Brain, In the Plex.
Favorite podcast: How I Built Thisย by Guy Raz @HowIBuiltThis
Favorite quote: "It ainโt what you donโt know that gets you into trouble. Itโs what you know for sure that just ainโt so." - Mark Twain
Favorite FinX account: So many smart people out there: @SteadyCompound, @BenCarlson, @Eugene_VCap, @borrowed_ideas, @TOSH_Investing Also, shout out to @TechEmails Internal tech emails offer a window to the minds of tech leaders.
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