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In this edition, we have the pleasure of interviewing:
Name: Ivana Delevska @IvanaSpear
Age: 41
Residence/Country: New York, USA
Invests since: 2008
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After graduating from college, I joined the M&A group at JP Morgan. Banks provide unique opportunities to get hands-on exposure and solid training programs. Shortly after my analyst program, I joined a large hedge fund. I can't say that I knew a lot about investing and public markets at the time, but I built a strong foundation for valuing and assessing companies, public or private, in my banking program. While on the buy side, I worked for several top-tier hedge funds, such as Citadel, Millenium, and Tiger Cub, doing long/short fundamental equity investing. Each experience contributed differently to building out my investment style. For example, Tiger Cubs are known for high-conviction research and longer-term ideas; Citadel was a great place to learn about risk management and how to measure alpha. I started Spear 3 years ago with the idea that I could bring the same rigor that hedge funds use to the everyday investor. My investing style today builds on the years of prior experience and best practices from all the funds I previously worked for.
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My background is in fundamental research and investing. I cover a universe of about 120 companies that I speak to on an ongoing basis.
I focus on understanding entire value chains and identifying where the biggest changes and inflection points are. I narrow down the research to 5-6 focus areas. With this approach, I can identify opportunities before they become mainstream. One of the key differences between Spear and our competitors is our risk management strategy. We have a very rigorous approach to identifying a thesis and tracking if the thesis is playing out.
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20-25 at any given time. The reason for the concentration is that, in my experience, the alpha generation drops off after a set number of investments; the more stocks you add, the more the returns start looking like a passive index.
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I focus on B2B technology. The last technology cycle was dominated by consumer tech companies. The next one could be technology transforming every industry, which could be a lot more powerful.
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$NVDA - Nvidia
$ZS - Zscaler
$MRVL - Marvell Technology
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$NVDA - Nvidia. We were able to spot the AI trend early.
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I make mistakes all the time. I track my hit rate pretty closely. I aim to maintain a hit rate of >50%, which means there are many mistakes. Win/loss ratio is another important metric. The key is to be able to understand and mitigate the damage. Here is one example: Snowflake $SNOW. I expected that the stock would recover after a cyclical downturn. Once the major hyperscalers started reporting an inflection in their growth prospects, I would have expected Snowflake fundamentals would follow within 3-6 months. But that did not happen. Instead, fundamentals continued to deteriorate. This means that my thesis was wrong. It turned out that the company dropped the 'innovation' ball. Snowflake may still turn into a good investment from these levels. The company now has a new CEO that may be able to re-invigorate the story. But that doesnโt change the fact that my thesis was wrong, and the investment now offers a very different risk/reward profile. It is very important to recognize when you are wrong, measure the impact, and see how you can improve. The most important thing from a portfolio perspective is that when you replace losers, you replace them with a similar risk profile. You donโt want to reduce/change your market exposure because that turns your strategy into market timing.
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Favorite book: Principles of Corporate Finance by Brealey,ย Myers andย Allen.
Favorite podcast: I am not a big podcast person, as I get my fair share of material with earnings calls. Two that stand out to me are:
- Invest Like the Best: I loved the Gavin Baker episode @InvestLikeBest @GavinSBaker - Lex Fridman: especially the Elon Musk @elonmusk and MrBeast @MrBeast episodes. @lexfridman
Favorite quote: "Investment success doesn't come from buying good things, but rather from buying things well."
Favorite FinX account: I am relatively new to FinX but I have come across several people that are doing top notch research. An example is Francis @InvestiAnalyst; I met Francis on Twitter and I was impressed with his research, enthusiasm, and personality. I think he is a must follow if you are looking to learn about cybersecurity.
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You can find more info about my funds on http://spear-invest.com/research
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